Philippe De Villiers at his meeting with Putin last August in Yalta
Le Figaro, February 23, 2015
February 25, 2015
Translated from French by Tom Winter
The former presidential candidate welcomes the Minsk accords. He encourages François Hollande and Angela Merkel to close in with Vladimir Putin to build a Grand Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals. Philippe de Villiers is the creator of the Puy du Fou [popular theme park] and the founder of the Movement for France. He was a candidate for President in 1995 and in 2007. He is also a writer. His latest book The Romance of Joan of Arc appeared November 2014.
Interviewed by Alexandre DeVecchio
Le Fig: What do you think of the Minsk accords negotiated by François Hollande and Angela Merkel with Vladimir Putin?
De Villiers: The Minsk accords are extremely important because they involve four new factors. First they have permitted the protagonists to get out of the logic of war. The diplomatic path of small steps is an augury of a possible peaceful future. Secondly, two major European states, France and Germany, have led the negotiation and are committed to the execution of the accord alongside Russia. It is plain that neither the EU nor America has the capacity or the will to make peace there. These agreements show that it is only when Europe talks to Europe that a real peace becomes visible — it is the Europe of its states. Thirdly, the accord opens the way to the only solution that exists for the territorial unity of Ukraine: the accepting by Kiev of a specific status for the east of the country with the right to its maternal language, Russian. Finally, as for the difference with the accord of September, this one has a calendar for each phase.
Le Fig: One time does not make a habit — so you welcome the initiative of François Hollande?
DeVilliers: Yes, because Europe must stop writing its future with the American pen. François Hollande has acted as a head of state without regard to the American assignments. He was able to resist the insistence of the United States on the entry of Ukraine into NATO. Further, one must encourage France to go beyond this first phase of emancipation. François Hollande should now deliver the Mistral to Russia and so respect the commercial contract signed by France and paid for by Russia at the level of a billion euros. He should also lift the sanctions which are today acts of war that are more unfavorable to the French economy than to the Russian economy and which do not affect the American economy at all. But the most important, rather than insist on building an artificial Maastricht Europe, will be to prepare tomorrow the only viable Europe that makes sense: to lay the groundwork for a grand strategic and cultural partnership with Russia — Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals.
Le Fig: The accord has already been violated by the Ukrainian separatists. Can one trust Vladimir Putin?
DeVilliers: When you get back to the source of these occurrences, one notes the permanent falsehood of the EU and the phantasies carried by the western press. The cease-fire, on my knowledge, is being observed along the front line, except at Debaltsevo, a special problem that came up just before the Minsk accords. But even there, today the heavy weapons are being drawn back. The mechanisms of oversight are getting put into place and the heads of state are talking to each other. When the media report that the Russian trucks laden with humanitarian aid are laden with munitions, I have to ask: in this time of satellites that see everything, of the iphones that record for the record, what’s stopping them giving us proof? Where are the photographs?
LeFig: The idea of the Puy du Fou is getting turned down in Russia — is your unconditional support for Putin, interested?
DeVilliers: Just the opposite. Having let Russia in on the advance planning for this franco-russian project, I discovered two things. First, that Russia is profoundly European. All her culture, all her elites and all her people look toward Europe. Solzhenitsin told me once: “Don’t make the mistake of turning your back on Russia. It’s a matter of your future.”
Further, I discovered that Putin is a genuine head of state. I also found out why in the West the elite one-worlders never cease criticizing him: America wants Europe to be the 51st star in the American flag. For that, they have to keep Europe sworn into NATO. Vladimir Putin is the perfect excuse, the ideal devil. Let us not forget the origins of the Ukrainian mess. First a coup d’etat fomented by NATO. Then the mistake of the Ukrainian government, the interdiction of the Russian language, finally, the US insistence on the entry of Ukraine into NATO. How can one imagine that the Russians could accept seeing NATO on their doorstep? Vladimir Putin has no wish for the dismemberment of Ukraine. He simply wishes recognition of the maternal Russian language in the russophone regions, a status for the regions, and finally the neutrality of Ukraine vis-a-vis NATO.
Le Fig: Russia seems to have recovered a certain national pride. Isn’t there a risk of this turning into an excess of nationalism?
DeVilliers: The difference with France is as follows: in Russia there is a real restoration of moral, civic, patriotic, and spiritual values. The little ones of Russia are learning the pride in being Russian. One speaks to Russians of Russia, of its grandeur, its rich patrimony, its eurasiatic spectrum. And what is one saying the the children of France? That France is a disgrace, that the French are a bunch of racists, and that patriotism is a bore. There is more freedom of expression in Russia than among us. As Philippe Muray prophesied, we are stuck in a cage of -phobes: islamophobes, xenophobes, europhobes, homophobes. Nobody shifts! And we have a political class that’s been drained, sanitized, stuck through the micro-wave that blesses the splitting off of work among the laicists who make a spiritual void, and the islamists who fill that void.
Le Fig: This doesn’t prevent the Russians themselves from experiencing strong ethnic and cultural tensions, does it?
DeVilliers: The difference with the integration “a la française” is clear. There are in Russia 20 million musulmans out of 140 million inhabitants. Vladimir Putin applies the ancient prudent principle: “One lives in Rome like the Romans; one lives in Russia like the Russians.” In France those who wish to believe that laicism and human rightsism are enough to resolve the problem are manipulators or cowards. There is but one way to integrate into our country, by francisation!
Le Fig: Now that the negotiations between the European Union and Greece are stalled, might Tsipras turn toward Russia?
DeVilliers: So far as the European oligarchy is concerned, Tsipras is in a state of mortal sin. He will soon be sacrificed on the Parthenon since he doesn’t kneel before the euro and he admits to a penchant toward Russia. He finds some virtues in the devil. But the worshippers of Brussels and Frankfort have never understood that redemption by euro doesn’t work for european economies. Greece will leave the euro: the negotiations will only postpone it. The European Union of today is an insane thaumaturgical attempt to annihilate the state, the frontiers, and to turn the peoples and the industrial activities over to the masters of internationalizing, who get immense benefits from it.
Le Fig: What will the Europe of tomorrow look like?
DeVilliers: The idea concocted today, by the Eurocrats and the one-world elites, of an accord of free exchange with will make Europe a market annexed to America, turns its back on the future and on good sense. What I fault in that Europe of theirs is being an American Europe — a simple extension both economic and cultural of the United States. To predict the future, one could say “The European Union is dead! Long live Europe!” The true Europe, the grand, from the Atlantic to the Pacific, that will rediscover the cradle of her cultural and ancestral alliances. The Europe of the Queen Anne of Kiev, the Russian queen who married a French king. The Europe that rediscovers the old and good ideas that lead the world since the experience of men invented the triptich, sovereignty, frontiers, identities.