Rostislav Ishchenko: The decision about Kiev junta’s liquidation was made when Crimea was annexed in March of 2014

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May 5, 2015

“Point of View” program on “Red Line” channel

Translated by Kristina Rus

33:40 – 36:00

Question: Will Novorossia expand West?

Rostislav Ishchenko, President of the Center for Systemic Analysis and Forecasting:

“At the moment when Crimea’s annexation just began, it meant that one way or another the issue on the table will be about the entire Ukraine, meaning this government will not remain in Kiev. In March of last year it was clear that it is  a matter of time, and not a principal decision. I said this last year, and I can repeat it again: there is no legitimate way to legalize Crimea as part of Russia without liquidating the current Ukrainian state. It is technically impossible. Otherwise, it is like the situation with the Kuril islands: Japan thinks they are theirs, and we think they are ours. And this may continue for 100, 200, 300 years, and in 30o years the situation could change very dramatically. Therefore, that the Kiev junta will be liquidated, and that it is in Russia’s interest, and that Russia will play a role in this one way or another – was clear in March of last year. And this continues today. Yes, it is taking longer then one would anticipate, but it is clear that the opponent is the other super-power – the United States, and it is not so easy to break their back. Because in Ukraine the war is not with Poroshenko, not with the junta, it’s a war with the United States.  And such wars may continue for 5 or 10 years. At least today the United States are rapidly weakening, and there is a chance to finish this sooner.” 

Kazbek Taisaev, Russian State Duma PM:

“I don’t quite agree with what is said. Because one may think that Russia began this in order to take Crimea. We must remember why the decision was made on Crimea: first of all it was a free will of the people, who lived in Crimea. I can assure you, that not one Russian would be left alive, and you would see the American base there the next day. Whether it is in Russia’s interest to destroy Ukraine – it is not in Russia’s interest. It is in Russia’s interest to preserve Ukraine as a great nation, and to have good neighborly relations, I am convinced of  that. This is why we give them gas, and give them discounts. We are supporting the people of Ukraine.”


Long live Ukraine, but not the Kiev junta …

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