Historian Nikolay Starikov: Ukraine was Conceived as Anti-Russia, Just Like Pakistan was Anti-India

December 30, 2014
Writer and historian Nikolay Starikov – Youtube
Translated from Russian by Kristina Rus

In order to understand what will happen next, I would like to offer to set your emotions aside. Because now we will talk about very serious things, and emotions can only get in the way.

What have our geopolitical foes done for many centuries? They have a certain methodology. Look, year 1949. India. Our British partners, thanks to USSR winning the WWII, were kicked out of India. We know that Indian people fought for independence, but they would fight for another 150 years if Soviet tanks didn’t enter Berlin, and more importantly, entered North Korea and began their immediate presence in this region. In this situation the Englishmen and other ‘capitalists’ had to show that they are for freedom and equality. They had to leave India. What did they do while leaving – they split the country into two parts. They created Pakistan. For those who don’t know – never before did Pakistan exist, it was an artificially created country, which name was created by Indian college students who studied in London. Everything as usual – in London. The country was divided along religious lines, Hindus to India, Muslims to Pakistan. Accordingly the population was mixed. Tragedy. What happened in reality? India and anti-India, called Pakistan. Loosing control over a territory they created anti-territory, anti-thesis, and then pit them against each other. Support terrorist groups, instigate conflict, as you see, in Pakistan, and India there are still terrorists, fighters for independence of some states. All of this done by those who left. Again, I would like to stress, while loosing control over a territory, they created anti-territory – India and anti-India.

Same thing in 1949, China. They had a civil war since 1946. They kicked out the Japanese in 1945, talked for a year, and started fighting from 1946 to 1949, 3 years of civil war. USSR supports Mao Tse-tung, the West supports Chiang Kai-shek. Mao Tse-tung won. What did the Americans and the West do? Created anti-China. Evacuated the remains of the army of Chiang Kai-Shek, covered with their navy, and created Taiwan on the island of Formoza. China – Anti-China. We can find many such cases in history.

Year 2011. Russia. What do they do? Bolotnaya square. Navalny. White ribbons. All parliamentary parties are a mess. Russia on the verge a coup. Everything ended well. Putin became president. They lost control over Russia. What do they do? They create anti-Russia. They create anti-thesis. Where? In Ukraine. As soon as Putin became president, they realized they can’t cause an internal explosion, they took the course to create anti-thesis, anti-Russia in Ukraine. But they have everything planned, even though they are for the invisible hand of the market, but as you know behind the invisible hand of the market is the invisible fist. With this fist they wanted to strike Ukraine in 2015. In the spring they had planned elections. This is where we speeded this process. In the fall Yanukovich didn’t sign the agreement, it got out of hand, state coup. This is why they had such a bloody coup with violating the constitution. They had to create anti-thesis. Immediately – screams about Russia’s fault.

Perspectives. Perspectives are seen from all these previous examples. Anti-thesis is created and pumped with arms and money, and in perspective – pitted. After a state coup in Ukraine, Ukraine is prepared for a war with Russia. Is Ukraine weaker? Of course weaker. But it’s not a tiny Luxembourg. There are more then 40 million people. If you arm and pump them really well, you can get a very fine (for our American partners) military conflict. The most important thing to understand – it is not necessary for Ukraine to win. What’s needed is a war. And for Americans the more Russians and Ukrainians die – the better. This is what they are going to do.

In this situation how can Russia prevent this chain of events? Here is Ukraine. In Ukraine forces emerge announcing that they are not agreeing with this course of events. Emerged DPR and LPR. Emerged, if you will, anti-anti-Russia. If Ukraine was anti-Russia, LPR and DPR are anti-anti-Russia. The same scheme. They emerge on their own, that’s what’s important, We provide support. Why? Because while DPR and LPR exist, they tie down Ukraine from this scenario. While people in Donbass fight for their vision of development for Ukraine, the war between Russia and Ukraine is impossible.

Please note, this is exactly how it develops. Kiev government screams that Russia attacked, that Russia is an aggressor, that there are Russian troops. Meanwhile they don’t announce martial law. Diplomatic relations are not cut off. And according to Orwell, they buy coal and electricity from the aggressor. Imagine if USSR bought coal from Hitler during WWII? Could this happen? No. From this we can draw some conclusions. Again, I ask to set your emotions aside. We have to understand, if we don’t interfere with American plans to create anti-Russia in Ukraine, they will inevitably push Ukraine towards war with Russia. Along with ISIS offensive through Afghanistan and Central Asia it will lead to war on two fronts, the same as in the 1930’s, when from one side Japan was attacking through China, practically through Mongolia, and Hitler – from the other side. Poland until the last moment was supposed to be an ally in the march to Moscow, but plans have changed.

Therefore, you know how they like to talk about betrayal of DPR and LPR, if you betray LPR and DPR, and the protest is liquidated by military means, the American plan kicks in. The fall of DPR and LPR means an attack on Russia in 5 years, or some conflict that will surely be organized. They have a reason – the nazis will say: “Let’s return Crimea!” and the West will support them. They have a case for war. Therefore Russia, protecting its own interests, setting aside our civilizational values – helping the weak, compatriots, “Russians don’t leave Russians behind”, setting all of that aside – leaving just naked pragmatism, we cannot leave Donetsk and Lugansk to their own devices.

And now, another important question: Can Russia accept independence of this territory? Set aside your emotions. If this happens, the scheme remains. We cut it off, it’s a separate state, we will deal with them later. First we will return Crimea. First we will strike that which is the reason for all our troubles. As soon as DPR and LPR separate from Ukraine, this whole American scheme begins to work. Therefore DPR and LPR (and I risk to say something unpopular) for the interests of Russia and the entire Russian world (and we have the same interests) has to one way or another remain inside Ukraine’s borders – it is a weight on the foot of Ukraine, which prevents Ukraine from being sucked into a war with Russia.

This is why the announcement of our Minister of Foreign Affairs [Lavrov], who said that Russia stands for the territorial integrity of Ukraine. This is why – our wish to put them at the same table. In reality, not all is well with American economy. In today’s situation we have to help Donetsk and Lugansk, and there are 2-3 million people, and the Americans have to help the rest of Ukraine, which is – 40 million people. This is what we are talking about. Therefore when you understand what rules apply in geopolitical game, you understand what can be done and what can’t be done. And the hot heads in our Patriotic Front don’t understand this. This is the difference between a commander of a division who wants to conquer some height, he has do it and that’s it, and a General who has to win the entire war, and not just to take one height. And in this situation DPR and LPR are fighting not just for their freedom, but for the lives of 40 million Ukrainians, who don’t understand, that if DPR and LPR fall, they will be sucked into the war with Russia, and the death count will be in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions. Today in Donetsk and Lugansk they are fighting for the entire Russian world – for Ukraine and Russia. Therefore you cannot talk about any betrayal, it’s like betraying yourself. Similarly not to re-unite Crimea and Russia was equivalent to allowing Maidan in Moscow in several months, this is what we are talking about. Therefore, every time we try to analyze the steps of geopolitical players, you have to set your emotions aside. Lukashenko flew to Kiev? Set emotions aside, then analyze why. Lukashenko said something about the dollar. Set emotions aside, then access his actions. Why something is happening in Donetsk and Lugansk? If you try to understand it from emotional standpoint it will not lead to anything good.

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  • Kristina Kharlova

    Brilliant piece, very good advice from Starikov. Thanks for translating, Kristina.

  • Kristina Kharlova

    Yeah, my name is Bandera. I'm sick of you useless naive trolls trashing my good name. I'm sick of you useless sheep thinking Russia has a right to invade its neighboring countries, and then blaming the victim country. I'm sicking of you stupid jackasses thinking Putin is not going to come to your country in the future if you appease him now. I laugh at you dumbasses that post through your Facebook account, trash the U.S. where Facebook was developed, then don't realize how easy it is to track you….

    You really should move to Russia because rumour has it Depardieu is getting lonely without more cannon fodder like you to be his next 'client'……

  • Kristina Kharlova

    I thought you were a troll working for the Us, but in that case you want to be suspected for working for the other side.
    You clearly overdo it.

  • Kristina Kharlova

    I work for the thousands of innocent people of Ukraine that have been murdered by Putin's dreams of "Novorossiya", for the million plus Ukrainians of all ethnicities who could not celebrate their Christmas tonight in their own homes because of Putin's illegal invasion, for the thousands of children who have become orphans, for the grieving mothers and widows in Ukraine and in Russia who had to bury family members sent to war. None of them would be suffering tonight if not for Putin's invasion under the false premise of 'protecting Russian speakers'.

    You support those values, You are complicit.

    I don't have the blood of the people on my hands like Putin's "Dugunite" army of terrorists and all you 'useful idiots' who supported this murderous regime.

    Who do you work for? What values do you represent? You live under the freedoms and protection of Western Civilization that you supposedly hate., Be a man and move to Russia to fight with Putin's "Dugunites" and at least show you really believe in what you say

  • Kristina Kharlova

    If you were sincere you wouldnt use an alias.
    Brent, as in brent crude or what?
    So you work for thousands – impressive and in what way do you live up to your high horse manners?
    Hating those who lead the west is a sound hatred. They really constitute the epitomy of evil.
    False flags everywhere while you arrogantly pretend not to know the way of the cia.
    Looking back a century those western elites have caused every case of war and mayhem and have had the nerve to blame others.
    You ought to be ashamed of yourself to help those bastards but then you're not serious anyway.

  • Kristina Kharlova

    No alias. Brent is the name my parents gave me, much like yours gave you 'Peter'. It's not as common as Peter, but I know several others with the same firs name. I'm not dumb enough to tell you my entire name, my home address and phone #.

    If the West is so evil as you claim, why do you live in it? Why don't you move to Russia if you support the values of the Putin regime? No country is perfect, and many countries have things they should not be proud of. Many hate the U.S. I don't. Believe it or not, I don't even hate Russia. What i do hate is people who steal, kill, lie and cheat. I hate people who are hypocrates and who do nothing but complain about how they have been wronged through life. I also hate people who think it is okay to take away the rights and freedoms of others and their right to choose their own fate.

    That is why I hate Putin, his followers, and what he is doing to Ukraine. He refuses to recognize Ukraine has a right to exist and decide its own future. His dreams of recreating some 'fabled' Novorossiya have cost thousands of lives, and may cost many more. Many of those innocent souls would be alive today if not for his invasion of Ukraine. Many Chechens, Georgians and even many Russians have died because of him. Do some research regarding his response to the Kursk submarine disaster. He does not value human lives other than what he can trade them for.

    Is that what you also support? Do you also not value the lives of others? If you support him and what he has done, then clearly think if that is what you also support.

  • Kristina Kharlova

    Brent
    The comment size shrinks so I answer here instead of pressing reply.
    The west commits evil against OTHERS and this is reason enough to care. I also have personal experiences of worse than Sovjet-style persecution in the west myself long ago, but that doesnt really matter since the evil of the west is everywhere visible and depends mainly on the anglosaxons considering themselves superior as well as dominating the world financial parasitism. They hate to see other nations develop pacefully. They payed $5billion to remove the previous Ukraine gov and they payed snipers to shoot at both sides. They do this in all countries where they want regime change. They did it to Russia in 1917. They do it in Venezuela, Thailand, Iran and more. Putin is a far worthier statesman than the terrible little puppet opportunists of the west. Putins speeches are calm and reasonable and makes so much more sense than anything we hear from the west.
    The west still hasnt come up with any proof of any Russian invasion. Russia had a deal to keep 25000 troops in Crimea. The west always pretend they dont know. The west presents images of purported russian invasions but are always exposed to have

  • Kristina Kharlova

    Putin hasn't annexed Donbas because then he would have to admit Russia has been involved all along when he has been denying it. He would prove "Strelkov"/Girkin is correct in what he has been boasting about for the last two months, that he led Russian troops in Crimea and Donbas. Putin even admitted that Russian troops invaded Crimea. Even your gospel, RT, carried the story

    http://rt.com/news/crimea-defense-russian-soldiers-108/

    If Putin moves to annex Donbas or a further invasion of Ukraine, then the EU has promised more sanctions. Look at how Russia's economy is crumbling now with the current sanctions and oil under $50 per barrel. If you remove Russia's access to the SWIFT banking system, and declare them a "state sponsor of terrorism", then they implode. Maybe the 'rubble' will hit 100 to the dollar. Maybe inflation goes from 17% to 27%. Inflation is already 10+% and food prices have increased 25+% in the past year. What do you think will happen if Putin annexes Donbas or sends a full invasion into Ukraine? How many Cargo 200 convoys and angry mothers and widows can he keep hiding the death of Russian soldiers from?

    Are you claiming everyone in Donetsk and Luganks hates Ukraine? Considering 58% of the population is ethnically Ukrainian, do you think that is realistic? Considering over 530,000 residents have fled to Free Ukraine, how much do they hate Ukraine? Many of the estimated 500,000 who fled to Russia were forcefully resettled in Siberia without their knowldged. Here's a recent poll result for you. 70% surveyed do not want to be part of Russia

    http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/10/01/over-70-of-donetsk-oblast-residents-dont-want-to-live-under-separatist-rule/

  • Kristina Kharlova

    Yes, the "evil" west. Where so many Russians, Ukrainians and others from East Europe dream to move. I don't recall anyone here of dreaming of moving to Eastern Europe. I wonder why….

    Russia had a deal to keep 25,000 troops within the naval bases they were leasing from Ukraine. Those troops were not supposed to be anything other than naval troops and were not allowed to travel outside of the bases as anything other than ordinary citizens. Look up the agreement, Peter.

    Are you trying to claim the West was responsible for the 1917 Russian Revolution? Are you going to claim they also assassinated the Tsar and his family outside of Yekaterinburg too?

    Peter, get a grip on reality. Or, move to Russia if you feel so strongly about the 'calm and reasonable' Putin! That's got to be the funniest comment. He sure wasn't very calm at the G20 when the rest of the World leaders did not want to even sit at the same table with him for dinner…he pouted and left early.

  • Kristina Kharlova

    You're funny trying to sound sure of yourself knowing nothing/lying as best you can.
    Peddling myths from the 1990's about emigration. Distorting reality about the G20.
    P leaving after finishing all planned communications. Whats not calm about that?
    And I was referring to his speaches, interaction with journalists and people. The western leaders make fools of themselves on a regular basis.
    I note you indirectly admit there wasnt any invasion. You're pretending it isnt known the west funded all revolutions 1905 and twice 1917, Lenin paying back to the Us by giving them an entire offshore industry 100% Us and Trotsky paying with gold 1000 locomotives at several times normal price. Litvinov being London City's man never could write his memoirs despite his unique insight.